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president's skepticism of foreign aid. the president is very skeptical of foreign aid, is that correct? >> he is deeply skeptical of sending u.s. tax paying dollars into an environment that is corrupt. it's as good as kissing it good-bye. >> is that something new he believes or something he ran on? >> something he ran on and implemented policies as soon as he became president. ambassador hale told us about the review of all foreign aid programs and described it as a zero based evaluation. >> right. you took the deposition of mark sandy a career official at omb? >> correct. >> and he had some information about the reason for the pause, is that true? i think he had a conversation