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she desperately needs the help as they face mardi gras. >> no doubt. thanks for having me on. this is, i believe, defund the police the single dumbest political argument of the 21st century. what it was part and parcel of was a destruction of legitimacy for law enforcement all over this country. our culture supported the idea. the george floyd incident was awful. some police commit crimes. when it occurs police who are criminals should be prosecuted, as they were in minneapolis. but what we allowed to happen, harris, we painted with a broad brush and created this idea that all police were the equivalent of what happened in minneapolis and none of them were worthy of respect. this is a natural outgrowth of that fact. what we need -- i've been arguing this for a long time. if you look at every police