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identified by dna technology. griff: we are almost out of time but i have to ask you because there's republicans, there's a big debate over continued support. so for all the members of congress, what's at stake if ukraine loses? >> the latest nato summit in madrid has said very clearly the biggest real threat to the nato membership as well as to the u.s. in particular is russia. american taxpayers at the moment are paying 50 cent per day to hold back the evil empire that wants to destroy ukraine, wants to diminish nato and wants to resurrect the empire of evil across european continent. so there's not an option for us to fail. there's not -- it's in our common interest to continue to fight. we will do the fighting, give us the tools. give us the weapons.