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this way, they have -- taylor swift may have turned herself into the antihero here. >> you're right. look, speaking of -- we've got audio of these kids saying why they're willing to spend whatever they can spend. let's watch that. >> are you like everybody else in the world that paid aen arm and a leg? >> yeah. [laughter] >> do you think it's the worth it though? >> yes, 1 100% worth it. >> why? >> because it's taylor swift. i mean,st taylor swift. >> can would you pay an arm and a leg and a college tuition this? >> i did. >> is it going to be worth it? >> i thinks. i want to see the smile on her face, and that will make me a proud mom. >> we are spending pretty much half our salary on merch -- >> and we'll spend the rest on tickets. [laughter] >> wow. and obviously, raymond arroyo, is the problem -- >> oh, yeah, i'm the problem. [laughter] >> i paid $500 to take my nephew to a michael jackson concert, so we know about quality acts and talent and paying money for it. >> okay. >> they out of line?

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