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promise. we will shut it down starting with agencies that should not exist like the u.s. department of education. [cheers and applause] we will shut it down. [cheers and applause] if -- this is what it means to live in a constitutional republic with three branches of government, not four. joey: you know what i like about him, and if you listen to that, he's echoing things that have been said for a decade. i think rick perry probably was most famous for talking about he would get rid of department of education, department of energy and then he forgot the third on- [laughter] rachel: i forgot about that. joey: that's something that conservatives have felt for a while. what makes him so good is his ability to take the cross-section of traditional conservativism and populism and be able to speak it so plainly and so directly. and that's what he does over and over again with issues. i don't know if he has what it