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if trump had a grand kid. >> he probably does. >> didn't knowledge tiffany. >> outkick founder our friend clay travis was with us, i stopped going on that show years ago, i used to go on that show believe it or not. maybe i'm thinking if joyless is so turned on by being yelled at maybe i should go on the show and just yell at her and see if i can bring some sense to that program. what do you think? >> sean that makes me think that you want to turn on joy behar which may be the most uncomfortable thing you ever said in the history of your program. >> sean: not exactly. this is hyperbole. i think i'd rather get water boarded than go on the view with joyless. >> look, i think that this is the dumbest show on television. and i give credit there because the truth of the matter is this. they have tried to argue, the entire basis of joe biden's 2020