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barred from running again, ever holding office in the federal government because he violated his oath. he supported an insurrection or rebellion. under the 14th amendment, you have this bar on federal office, if you supported or if you gave aid and comfort to an insurrection or rebellion. of course, that brings you to the original question. what was january 6th? in the view of many citizens, including myself it was a protest that became a right. it was not a rebellion or insurrection. but that's a matter of disagreement between citizens. donald trump hasn't been charged with insurrection. not even incitement. special counsel jack smith charged him with a variety of crimes like fraud. he notably did not charge him with even incitement. >> laura: right. >> in that second federal indictment. >> laura: professor, the people who claim to be the great protectors of democracy, tribe,