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but what i think it's led to is sort of a paralysis by analysis situation at the biden national security council. i think we have to be willing to escalate a little bit more in order to sort of tamp down a lot of these forces that feel like they can take shots with impunity with the united states. >> john: like obama's line in the sand, he said this is a red line, don't cross it, and assad said watch. obama did not do anything. >> michael: and not just a black mark for the obama presidency and national security policy, it was a black mark for the united states, a black eye for all of us. looks like the united states will not live up to obligations. >> john: iran does not seem to be afraid of him at all, ok, so what we have done, we took out some rebels in syria, killed a number of them, we took out some