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in his impeachment trial, he wasn't convicted. justice department hasn't brought that charge, so who decides whether he has committed insurrection in me? you? if a single justice official in? michigan said otherwise. governor newsom said we're not doing that here in california. so what's being created is this untenable patchwork of rules as we approach this 2024 election, and that's why the supreme court has to get involved. and how they choose to go about it is going to be very interesting. howard: well, it's not me or you, but we do talk. [laughter] have "the new york times" or washington post editorial boards taken the stand against barring colorado and maine voters for voting for the are republican front-runner? >> i hadn't seen that, "the washington post" mantra democracy dies in darkness, yet i think everyone whether they want to say it out loud or not knows we are barreling towards the chaos. if what has happened remains the way it is. because when we remove the right

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