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i would engage her and i would get her what? >> get her to do what we used to see is like public service announcements and that type of enlistment, that type of solicitation is analogous to the old days of deployment of a sign up. and so in modern times with these people having such influence and such, you know, immeasurable amount of followers, she can potentially singlehandedly swing voters because of just the amount of followers that she potentially can influence. >> so the answer is yes, jesse. yeah. >> because when she posted the link to the vote.org site, hundreds of thousands of young taylor swift fans all of a sudden registered to vote. i wonder who got to her from the white house or from wherever. >> who makes that official handshake? is it the binder? the administration has what they consider a perception