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running interference for him. so for this to happen at the lay date is a little bit confusing. he's been out there saying you've got to vote for me because i will pardon president trump if he gets in trouble. maybe that got under trump's skin a little bit facing all of these legal challenges. but you know, given the new des moines register pole that's got vivek in single digit hard to see as a real serious threat. and interesting that he would kind of waste any political capital going after hem in iowa where it doesn't seem to be an issue. >> shannon we were -- agreed with you that, obviously, vivek is at single digit even if there was some bad polling going on. it's hard there's possible that he could overtake him. we've been kind of sort of analyzing this through the hour and taking it in and decided that trump just wants vivek's votes and he just is look i have to do whatever i have to do. he brought that up and kind of come along with that -- >> feels like shannon it is