are gutting medicare. this is what is scary. seniors. not the boogie man of what republicans might do, as you say. it's what democrats have done. what good is affordable healthcare in 2014 when you don't have a job in 2010? >> eric: martin -- >> you ask seniors whether they like medicare and they will tell you they love medicare and they want people to keep it. >> they won't like the new medicare under democrats who are gutting medicare for socialized medicine. >> republicans want to privatize it. c'mon, brad. get other issues if you appeal to that group. >> we have to fix what you guys have done, repeal and refund the disastrous healthcare that you guys instituted that hopefully we can change before it's implemented. >> the tea party right now, brad sounds like the tea party. >> eric: speaking of the tea party, look, one big difference between '94 and now, now is 9.6% unemployment. '94, 3.5 points less. 6.1% unemployment. martin, how do the democrats defend that? >> you look at the same situation that happened in