politicians and of us. especially our promises to cut spending, stop ordering so many things. we did not mean our slices. or our spending. because our slices and our spending is important. this is a big dilemma. so the cato institute on why this is the heart of what airlines us. no one wants to see cuts from us. this is very unappetizing. >>guest: well especially if i am sitting in a studio at the cato institute and i don't get the pizza. two things that could sound like a contradiction. of course we should cut spending and that means if we happen to be benefiting from government programs we should be willing to become away from the table and say okay, as long as everyone's ox is gored and the politicians are not protecting the sacred