fraud and not criminal fraud? when you manipulate money to the tune -- why aren't they being investigated criminally, where you can go to jail? number two, who in the world is policing these legal fees? 160 million dollars. i want to know what these lawyers are charging, by the hour. i want to know how many lawyers they have assigned to do the same task? anyone going through these to look for waste and fraud? >> stay tuned, a lot of the cases coming out of the financial crisis have the same set-up where executives' bills will be paid for by the companies and you will see all kinds of money going out the door, we are seeing it with the lehman brother's bankruptcy. a lot of money being covered to fight legal battles and cover these executives. >> greta: who is policing the law firms? who is going through the bills to see if they are doing this ridiculous billing? >> there are not many people policing them. i don't know anyone.