critical things, then we can take a look at everything else in terms of where we need to cut. it might mean a furlough of federal workers, which is not a bad idea. >> quickly, mr. boehner last night mentioned he would be interested, he would be allow a debt ceiling raise if there were equal cuts in spending. is that fair? >> it's fair. but it's another stall tactic. frankly, i'm disappointed with representative boehner for putting that on the table. this congress has shown it does not have the ability to stop spending. i think that they are just avoiding the tough choice. don't raise the debt ceiling. pay for the stuff that is critical. then the other things are forced cuts. >> there it is, a few minutes with john mccain. up next, democratic solution to soaring gas prices. repeal oil and gas subsidiaries. really? we talk about the real solutions how to ease pain at the pump with a former oil company executive. that's next.