there's a massive lack of trust. nobody believes they're getting anything true anymore and this guy for a week does this to the country, lies about it. puts himself into a position of blackmail and tries to convince everybody that yes, somebody can hack in and do this. >> what does it say to you? there seems to be one scandal after the next recently. >> no, this is the most ethical. >> there always have been scandaled if you look back in political history. but what does it say to our kids? should they look up to politicians as role models? >> no. not now. >> not now. not until we -- until we start to grow good politicians again. until we change ourselves, you know, i'm -- i was working on something late last night and i -- i put politicians up at the top. and washington and the people down at the bottom and then all of the problems in between. we have to start working at the