the coverage you see it every day. even here on our channel sometimes. >> bill: but how much of a problem is michele bachmann? tea party, basically sending the message to people they helped elect. you better no not compromise at all. you better not have any, any give to the democratic party. how much of a problem is that for independent americans and in polls like these? >> what it means is that there is a subset of the republican caucus in the house, which is a majority but it's not that big of a majority that will not vote for any kind of increase in the debt limit, which means that anything that john boehner passes has to be some unbelievably conservative plan that can't clear the senate and certainly won't pass muster with the president. or it has to be something that if he is going to get a majority for, significant majority for in the house, he will have to -- if it's moderate in -- more moderate than conservative's want, it would have to be