need. i argue that this is a strategic need now. they have done these things and need to take resources and they could change the supply change from the entire electronics industry forever. >> how will they do that? >> if they took -- there was a proposal, very, very strong proposal that apple should pay a dividend to the shareholders because they have all this cash then don't know what to do with it. they should pay 5% was the proposal of their moneys of the $5 billion. that's such an extraordinary amount of money compared to the nothing that has been put into -- anything in the supply chain for china. that amount of money in a foundation could change everything about how the relationship between america and china in the entire electronics industry, it could actually pave the way to make thing nonabstract argument, jobs in america if something like that changed the terms of the game you could talk about what america's role could be in