much emphasis on polls, because we're polling multiple times in a given week, even. i think you have to look at a combination of both, what the swing state polls are telling you and the national polls are telling you to really get a sense of what's going on. i don't disagree you can't rely solely on those polls, but i think you ought to rely on both. >> that's very ecumenical of you. it shows there is no evidence that a vp can pick up a certain demographic. should romney find a vp over a target demo or just the best overall? >> i think you go with the best draft choice that's available. one, you want to pick somebody who is ready to be president. that's first and foremost. and you don't want to pick a vp that will hurt you. you always say someone in the swing state, but we've seen in history that dick cheney didn't think wyoming was going to be a swing state at some point, so that wasn't the reason why.