not in charge of this. and only three individuals from the u.s. are right now headed towards kiev. they'll be a single ntsb investigator and two fbi agents to assist. but this is going to be a ukrainian operation and then an international -- hopefully international investigative body. >> and bob hager, our old friend and long time colleague, so far today germany and other countries have restricted their airlines from going into war zones, which includes now afghanistan, syria and the like. should ukraine have closed its air space long before now? >> i think so. and i think the international community bears some responsibility. there's this u.n. organization that supervises international aviation. its headquartered in montreal, the international civil aviation organization. seems to me they should have said long ago nobody should be flying over this air space. i'm baffled why. the only reason would be economic to save fuel,