blaming it. but i think that it is unfair to act like people that have been engaged in these discussions even when it was uncomfortable ought to be blamed for saying things we didn't want to say. i know you didn't want to deal with yesterday but i'm a preacher, i deal with yesterday and tomorrow. >> i didn't want to but marc was here and for anybody who knows mika and the rest of us it was very shocking because marc, al, we've all talked about this very a very long time. we have all saturday around this table for eight years. there are two americas in in the criminal justice system the america for a young black male is far worse ard harder than mitt romney my friends or mika's kids. what's thigh wretching words out of the proper context was -- >> like you i grew up in the south and came of age as a little boy when the schools were being integrated. and, you know there's a point at which you think we've gotten