>> this is what the e-mail story brought back. there is this sort of -- the honest and trustworthy question with the clinton name and clinton brand is like velcro with them. and every once in a while they are able to get away from it and it doesn't pull them back into negative territory and then something happens and all of a sudden allows it to look like it's old habits again. that's what the e-mail story did, it brought back that perception, that older perception of the clintons in general. and this is why -- look it's note going to be a story that up-ends her in a nomination fight but that lingering thing. when i saw those -- especially colorado iowa virginia three states filled with independents in general. filled with that sort of middle of the road anti-foel ar -- they don't like nasty red/blue politics. i'm not surprised it's hurting her there. >> interesting as we have our own poll our bing question as to whether or not hillary clinton has a better shot in '16 than '08.