side who said there was ever a moment where we contemplated the possibility of not giving subsidies to people who got their insurance in the federal exchange. >> and that is right. and the reason is because it did not happen. i mean i was there for virtually all of the discussions leading up to the senate passage. many of them with republicans in the room most of those discussions not public and so are not on the record. there was a lot of discussion about how these tax credits were going to work who was going to benefit, what income levels how big the tax credit would be and what kinds of insurance product, be it high deductible plans, catastrophic plans or more basic plans would be eligible under the exchange. but everyone assumed and knew that these tax credits were going to be available for all americans. >> and, russ you were in a lot of closed door private conversations in which republican senators would easily comfortably have said to you,