>> whatever. and headline on ice, i don't understand one thing. we get the news that isis has been beaten back they have lost how many towns, alex over the past couple months? >> kurds took back 200 towns. >> the kurds. it's always the kurds. iraqis cut and run. kurds have taken by 200 towns. a lot of them in syria. at what point are we going to say to everybody including turkey we're going to give the kurds a state and it will stretch from iraq into syria, we in the international community, because they're the ones that are actually fighting for their territory and doing a damn good job at it? will. >> the conversation should take place seriously, but at a minimum, they should be provided whatever military products they may need in order to continue this fight. they're really our best fighters on the ground and they have not only proven to be relatable ande