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fears the most is being a loser, which may be why, if he doesn't run in 2024, that would probably be it, because he can not face the thought of losing for a second time but the stoking of anger is a powerful motivator and it's ripping -- you quoted earlier that piece from enid, oklahoma, about mask wearing and it's -- you feel it out there in all of the reporting we're getting from around the country, this sense of anger and division and incivility, and like you, i don't know where we go from here. >> well, pete wehner, it's your reporting and storytelling that will help us know what's coming. i really am grateful to you for coming on to talk about the piece. matt dowd and katty kay, thank you so much for spending time with us today. when we come back, rand paul once again facing ridicule for his, shall we say, misguided idea of what it means to steal an election. seems he's not so into democracy these days. we'll explain next. ot so into dy these days we'll explain next are you taking a statin drug to reduce cholesterol? it can also deplete your coq10 levels.