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overthrow the government. and i will tell you watching jeff nessler's opening statement this morning, they have a really powerful case. i was impressed they are introducing the words of the defendants themselves. when they said things like, we are taking the capitol. and then after it was all over they said, we took the capitol. and seditious conspiracy can be proved if you seize the property of the united states. even if only temporarily without authority. so at least early on it seems to be a pretty compelling case for the prosecution. >> would you agree with that, ken? >> reporter: yeah, absolutely. now, the defense in this case, chris, is that they're going to argue they were an unofficial militia ready to be called by former president trump under the insurrection act. they believe this was a corruption of the election and that they were there to act in