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country or in any country is through a democracy. so if democrats run out of campaign that their strongest on and emphasize those issues as we see in michigan and other states, they can win. >> can a message about democracy beat out a right-wing fearmongering message over borders and crime? >> first of all, the ten states with the highest crime rate, eight are run by republicans. republicans who control them actually have higher crime rate. when bill clinton passed the crime bill in 1993, we have the largest drop in violent crime we've had in mar american history. it did not come back until the last year of donald trump's administration. i have no idea why the democrats would run away from the crime issue. by the way, this country needs immigrants. i like immigrants.