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>> i think there's a fascination with a new politician who seems to have his fingers on the pulse of his constituency. and we're at risk of going through the savvy analysis of the effectiveness of the florida governor and deconstructing how clever and how counter intuitive his appeal has been. i think there's a fascination with any successful politician that kind of puts journalists it in the role of theater critics or appreciators of professional techniques. i think that's where we're going to be with desantis without some sort of intervention which is not in the cards. >> you could say the same thing as youngkin, the same coverage as a moderate when his primary policy is banning books by black