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though other countries, germany, peru act decisively and quickly to quash attempted coups, arrest the ringleaders who aim to overturn democracies. their own ex president as yet to face any charges. joining me now is a member of the january six committee, congressman adam schiff, democrat from california and the chairman of the intelligence committee. congressman, it's good to have you on. i want to start to see if you can confer some news. cnn reports that the committee has referrals for four individuals besides the ex president. those include white house chief of staff mark meadows, john eastman, justice department official jeffrey clark and former trump lawyer, rudy giuliani. can you confirm that? >> what i can say chris, is our process, we look at the evidence and one individuals, we believe that there is evidence to support potential referrals. we looked at each of the elements that matched up with the evidence. we're not ready to announce yet, but i think we will without