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if you're being honest, the process is skewed in the proceeding in favor of the prosecution because defense doesn't get up there and is not cross-examining witnesses but to asha's point, you know, the corroboration that's objective, that's not michael cohen or kellyanne conway or others that appeared but the documents and the theory is the falsification of record, the payments to reimburse michael cohen was booked as legal fees but there were no legal services provided. that's black and white. there's no retainer agreement. if you look at the actual physical documents and this goes to susanne's point as well there will be a paper trail that can implicate people along the way including donald trump. costello is not so much the defense for trump but pore to go after michael cohen and it's that relationship between costello and michael that's important. michael says there was zero attorney/client relationship. he was never being represented but in 2019 he waived