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maybe he is capable of that, maybe he's not. we'll have to see. but this is like dipping that first go toe into the pool of the place he wants to go if you want to have a chance. >> before i let you go, we talk often about the media and young voters. vice news announced this morning that they are filing for bankruptcy. tim, they were the darling of millennial media when you are running communications for jeb bush. many considered it the key to get to young voters. a few weeks ago it was buzzfeed, now it's vice, what's your take on all this? >> young voters didn't love my establishment republican candidates that much. we did our best. i loved vice personally, i think a lot of these guys got a little too big for their bridges. they were a little bit, a little high on their own supply, to use the metaphor. they thought that they could expand into these massive media conglomeration's when really they were a successful niche outlet. i think it's a lesson we are trying to learn at the bulwark. we have a niche political outlet and we are trying to grow it gradually rather than take in these tens upon tens of