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this first amendment case? was it that death penalty case? was it some major separation of powers case? none of those. the hardest decision i had to make was whether to erect fences and barricades around the supreme court. >> it's just hard to imagine a mind that works that way. so the death penalty cases, in which chief justice, john roberts, decides, literally, who will live and who will die, for him, those decisions are never as difficult. as the decision that he made to put up a temporary barricade around the supreme court, because he feared what the country's reaction would be to the republican judges on the supreme court, revoking a constitutional right. revoking women's right to control their own bodies. and of course, there was no need for those barricades. there is no violence.