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just any investigators, not just investigators who happen to investigate while trump was president, not investigators who may have had one of the pieces of paper that cross their desk into russia, durham's mandate was to investigate the investigators who investigated interference by russia in the 2016 election. and what a lot of people talk about when they revisit the mueller report is the trump figures that were charged that pleaded, mueller also indicted a whole lot of russians. >> yeah, that's true. >> durham was the man in charge of the investigation and he doesn't know basic facts? he either misstates or erroneously recounts the conclusions of the mueller report. what was that? >> the sense i got from watching that exchange is that durham didn't want to get led down a path where he was criticizing the political response to the leaks of those e-mails by donald trump. he was trying to do what robert mueller tried to do in his own