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they say that in a lot of cases, they have seen such terrible injuries, katy, where people get these terrible lacerations, i have seen some of the pictures, they have to go to the hospital because they get up on the wire, that ends up hindering the mission of the border patrol because they have to set out and care for these people. the opposite of what abbott set out to do. >> it's extreme what's being alleged here, and it's hard to imagine that anybody who's a person with a beating hurt would push a kid back into the water. what has dps said in response to this? or, yeah, texas public -- >> safety. they said it's outrageous that he would make claims, and these aren't orders. i think it's important to point out that while this state trooper says he was ordered to, he means a verbal order, not a mandate that went out to texas state troopers. when i talked to texas dps, he said say we tell our state troopers to give water if someone is in a medical need, if