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going through this process and using illegal means, even if he thought the end goal was justified. >> garbage complaints being the official legal term, of course. ryan, we have also learned that georgia governor and republican, brian kemp, was contacted by the special counsel's office as part of the same investigation. so, what is the latest that you could tell us about that? >> you know, i don't know if that actually means necessarily that we won't see something coming. you know, it's tough to tell exactly what's going on behind the scenes there, because the way reporters are finding out about this is largely through either individuals who will appear before the grand jury, their lawyers, or you, know in these cases, other officials who can disclose that. think justice department officials are banned from disclosing what's going on behind the doors of the grand jury. so, we don't know what way they're really going to go about this. there's one way you could go down, which is a really involved indictment mundo other potential defendants or could they put this on a separate track and say okay, we're going