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you talk about this first republican debate, trump's out there basically saying i'm going to watch it. i'm not going to show up. and i'm going to watch it so i can look at them all and figure out who i'm auditioning to be my vp. if they do -- if none of them come back and punch him between the eyes, he is making them look like absolute punks, and they're taking it. >> yeah, no, they have to show more edge. again, it's bad strategy in a republican primary to go for trump's throat. what the message is is is grandpa needs a gold watch entertainment, we can't let him go lose to joe biden. and that message does have some traction. in iowa and new hampshire, where the republican voters are starting to learn a lot more about the tim scotts and the ron desantis's and the other candidate, maybe doug burgum, those are on television, trump is not at 50%. and a lot of the private polling and seeing, he's got a third of the vote, and everybody knows it. so if your dog food that every