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senate and the congress and their chambers. this was unprecedented and we ought to not act like this is just another news story. >> charlie, just to put a fine point on t clark is believed to be co-conspirator number 4 in the indictment. i want to read the section where he appears to be mentioned. the deputy white house counsel reiterated the co-conspirator four there had nobody the out -- and if the defendant remained in office nonetheless there would be, quote, riots in every major city in the united states. co-conspirator four responded, well, deputy white house counsel, that's why there's an insurrection act. your thoughts? >> yeah, i was thinking about that passage when you were having the discussion. jeffrey clark -- that there was a possible of violence, and he was completely okay using the u.s. military to put down -- to put down the opposition. putting american soldiers on the