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cover. what people with banned books generally don't, they don't generally read the books that are banned. -- >> they seldom told when it's about. >> it's either about the author or an idea, once in a while it's the words. but generally speaking it's the politics. we're not doing politics. the velshi banned book club is not about politics. we'll ask the what oscar -- but then we're talking about the literature, the words, the beauty inside the box. the margaret atwood, we have george afternoons and, the first person we interviewed. it's remarkable experiences by person who've written books that we deserve access to. you don't deserve or have to read every book that's available to you. you don't have to have your kids rate up. and you should curate with your children what they read. but we deserved not have any book cap from us should we decide to read it. >> i gotta tell you. last week we listen to ali velshi because i was on the road as the indictment dropped. i thought, there's no other way,