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sort of running themes in the people that are pushing for proposing, or in the case of huey long, embodying an alternate to that. >> yes. and i think it's easiest to see it when you look at what the germans were secretly telling us. so, one of the things we now know, and this is an ultra, and it's in the book to, is that was a really big, really aggressive, really well funded secret german propaganda effort targeting the american people. and what were they trying to do? they were basically trying to do three things. probably, i guess you could narrow it down to. one was to support isolationism, however they could. however you wanted to hear it, they would help you hear it. and the argument against the americans joining the war, they were all for that. they also wanted to turn us against our allies by making us see fascism as preferable to every other form of government. so they're arguing that we shouldn't go to where to defend our ally, britain, because in