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principles. we have a lot of work to do. >> i will tell you, eddie, i like your thoughts on that. there was a moment of a protest group interrupting the president of the united states. if you talk about that outside of where it happened, it would be normal and, quite frankly, it's one of the privileges of a democracy that you are able to speak to power. , anywhere but at this place. eddie, i want you to give us a context, historical and spiritual about mother emanuel ame church. is that a place where political divisions and even confrontations of ideological thought is to be held? >> absolutely, jose. it's a place for prophetic speech. remember prophetic speech aims to speak truth to power. when we think about the history