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people perceive it. so to your point about folks not feeling that, you know, anything is getting done, it got done. it's just you didn't know about it. we were talking about the filibuster for 18 months while joe biden's team was getting all this other stuff done in the congress. working the deal with mitch mcconnell, working the deal with kevin mccarthy. >> it's politics, regular politics. >> it's politics. and politics is slow. it's not this boom, boom, boom. >> you know what, there was a similar critique of barack obama, right? >> uh-huh. >> which is look, both biden and trump gave people a stimmy. trump put his giant stupid-looking magic marker signature on it and people forgot biden did it all. >> trump lost and also people thought biden was going -- obama was going to lose and he won. so i think the other thing that's hard right now is we're seeing a lot of this through the prism of the republican electorate. that is what we were talking about. the republican electorate is not the national electorate. who there are other channels,

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