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msnbc podcast how to win 2024. ruth ben-ghiat, history professor at nyu, and author of strongmen, mussolini to the president. and charles coleman junior, msnbc legal analyst, civil rights attorney, former brooklyn prosecutor, and the host of the charles coleman podcast. thank you all very much for spending part of your saturday evening with me. clare, your reaction to that stunning back and forth between trump's lawyer and the member of the appeals court. >> well, i'm ashamed to say he is from missouri. i'm ashamed that. well frankly, and the right has to be very disappointed, maga has to be very disappointed, because they have been peddling to america that all of the ivy league schools are hotbeds of socialism and communism, and brainwashing to the progressive left. this guy is a harvard law grad, how embarrassing for harvard law school for him to make the