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jennifer rubin says, you can't be held for me and for all things. it seems the appeals court was not convinced of that thing. do you think it would be different if the same argument came up with the supreme court? >> i'm glad you brought up that example because much was made of that. and i might have a slightly different view of that, which is, one of the area -- here's what we know about immunity. in excess but we don't know the full contour of it. and when example that has not been squarely decided, but has to be true, is that generally for acts of war, presidents are immune. presidents like george w. bush. you remember -- famous prosecutor wrote an entire book about prosecuting george w. bush for murder after he got out of office and technically you could do it because murder has a statute of limitations. that you would never do that because on some level we understand there are some areas where there is absolute immunity and immunity that continues after the presidency is over. and distinction would probably