interviewed and said we basically expect people elected to vote on the principles they were elected there. >> he's the raw seat of the hurricane. and joe murrow, this guy is a real tea partier, smart guy apparently. let's take a look. he talks about supporting -- he's saying it up front. i'm going to support a government shutdown, i believe. let's listen to him. >> but out of the gate, joe, what do you start with, health care? >> oh, absolutely. you fund it. i mean, a repeal would be perfect but obviously that would get vetoed. defund everything. get rid of the oeshlist aspects of government, not just in health care but in the areas driving us into insolvency. >> of course you're going to have a president who's going to veto anything if the -- that the republican congress tries to enact. >> you've got to fund it and the congress has to have an affirmative vote to do it. >> starve them of the fund. starve the bee so to speak. >> absolutely, have the courage to shut down the government if we have to.