there? >> i don't think they would see it as irony. the tea party element is here, but that's not this crowd. folks like gary bower, tony perkins, for a long time, and yeah, swept up by the tea party crowd, their talking about the same things now as last year and the year before. the same issues are important now. >> well, andy, are the values voters kind of like the liberals or democrats in that they get lip service every year? people say, oh, yeah, we're going to overturn abortion any minute now, then when they get into office, guys like romney say, oh, yeah, we'll get to you later. >> totally right. these guys had the most conservative president they were going to have in a long time in