billy idol song, we've been dancing with ourselves. now let's just get on with it. let's get the best that we can. if republicans want to make it clear to the public they don't want better health care for america, that's fine. the public will remember that. >> so how do you do it? how do you get them to dance? >> look, the democrats now 60 votes in the senate. it's not that complicated. get it over with, vote. >> but there's so many democrats who are almost as beholden as republican senators and many republican congressmen to the insurance lobby. what do we do about the pervasive influence in terms of campaign funds that have afflicted some of the smaller state senators even on the democratic side. >> we need campaign finance reform, but right now we need people to call. we need people to send e-mails. we need people to go to websites. we need people to insist on justice for the public. and that means comprehensive, universal and affordable health care in america. >> for some reason steven douglas' words come to mind here -- not steven douglas, frederick douglass' words, agitate, agitate, agitate. >> that's right. >> congressman alan grayson of