Misleading political ads from facebooks many platforms. Zuckerberg says, its not his business to censor news. Adding to the controversy, youtube which is owned by google faced criticism of political bias when it removed 300 ads from President Trumps Reelection Campaign from its website. The company hasnt said why the ads were pulled. And twitter says its banning all political ads a move that might sound altruistic but critics say could hurt start up campaigns trying to reach new voters. The decision by individual companies is only part of a broader debate. Is social media healthy for democracy . Professor Jonathan Nagler teaches politics at nyu. Hes also codirector of the universitys center for social media and politics. He joins us from new york. So nice to have you, sir. So much to dig into. Im curious what you think about facebook opposition, which is basically im not going to censor political ads. Thats kind of the gist of what zuckerberg was saying. Mr. Nagler i think the upside of their position ist of us dont like the idea of a private company deciding whats fit for consumption by the public. So thats the good part of it. The downside, obviously, is whats going to happen in terms of a lot of information being displayed on facebook that might not exactly be truthful. And so what we what a lot of us would like to see is if facebook would work very hard to just let people know, well, who is the who, who is the author of the information, who provided this information . The world of running ads is not new. Whats new is the idea that anyone can post content. Soledad yes. So that kind of brings you into the question of is that. Whats the impact on democracy when people who are posting can change the tenor of a conversation . What are you looking for . Mr. Nagler we actually tend to f eus less on the ads than on mass public, which is which is quite difft. Ere trying to find out is, does that influence their beliefs, their attitudes about politics, what they believe about positions of candidates, what they believe about truthfulness of candidates. Its important to realize the vast majority of content on social media and the vast majority of news stories shared are by reputable news sources. But there is some tiny fraction of the news that share. Thats not by reputable news sources. And that is a cause of concern. Soledad yeah. And even that tiny fraction, if youre looking at bots that have a very targeted and intentional strategy, it could be a tiny fraction, but theyre all going the same direction arounr decra, thatsi influencing the tenor of a conversation that might encourage people to do something to behavy, maybe not o vote. Mr. Nagler right. I mean, that is the problem that you could have. That is one of the problems that you could have foreign actors producing information that goes online. It doesnt look like it comes from or it doesnt look as if it comes from foreign actors. You know, when the voice of america broadcasts, you know, its the voice of america. When russian bots post things on social media, they dont announce that theyre russian bots. And so that that becomes problematic. Soledad what do you think ultimately is the impact . I mean, it actually makes me anxious to have this conversation. That doesnt happen very often. But i dont think anybody i dont think it was media has prepared for 2020. I dont think the populace even understands whats going to be coming across the transom in 2020. I think politicians really dont understand how nasty its going to get in 2020. Am i wrong . Mr. Nagler well, i thine cebo y preparing for 2020. I think theyre working hard to figure out how they can keep disinformation off their disinformation coming from, say, russian bots in terms of what the impact of this is. Lae impact is probably not bear in mind its very hard to move lots of voters campaigns spend hundreds of millions of dollars on this, and the notion that a handful of russian bots swings an election would normally be far fetched, except that as we all know, our president ial elections in the us are we very, very tend to be very, very close. And so whereas the impact of bots will probably be very, very small, very, very small, can be quite influential here. So that thats the issue. I think the other issue here is simply the fact that were having this conversation is because people are worried about fake news and disinformation. And the real damage of that is that peoples may start to lose trust in what is totally real news and totally crediblws i think at the moment they trust has been eroded in all news media across the board, and partly because people just dont know what is true and what is not true. Professor Jonathan Nagler, thanks so much, sir. We appreciate your time. Mr. Nagler thank you. Next on matter of fact as the daca debate returns to the Supreme Court, different faces are emerging from the group known as dreamers. But why arent more undocumented asians speaking up to gain protected status . Soledad why is the Participation Rate so, so low . Ali i think within the Asian Community theres just kind of a hesitance to take that next step forward. And its a rags to riches storywith a message. How a single moms bestselling memoir is putting a face to a big problem in the u. S. The memoir is putting a face to a big problem in the u. S. The widening wage gap for the a lot of folks ask me why their dishwasher doesnt get everything clean. I tell them, it may be your detergent. Thats why more dishwasher brands recommend cascade platinum. Its speciallydesigned with the soaking, scrubbing and rinsing built right in. Cascade platinums unique actionpacs dissolve quickly. To remove stuckon food. For sparklingclean dishes, the first time. 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Just 2percent. Compared to 63percent of undocumented mexican immigrants. Ali noorani, is the son of pakistani immigrants and is the executive director of the National Immigration forum. Its so nice to have you with us. Ali thank you very much for having me. F things to, thasian can be asian immigrant community is relatively young in the United States. So i think there is a limited level of organizational and communy the system. And then second, i think that there is also some cultural differences where i think within the Asian Community there is a real desire to kind of stay within your community, stay within your family. Just like every other immigrant community. Go work hard, achieve the american dream. But theres just kind of a hesitance to take that next step forward. Soledad is there a generational debate, a generational conversation thats happening within the Asian Community around daca . Ali i think so. So one of the larger the largest undocumented population among asians is actually the south Korean Community. And some of the organizing, Community Organizing thats happening with them suck the south Korean Community is absolutely incredible. So, in fact, with the supremearr this summer, last month, i should say, who was the opening speakers, if you will . It was the korean drum corps playing the traditional korean instruments. And they were there saying, you know, we are part of the Asian Community. Were young people. Strts here. And just poll people and ask them, who do you really think daca is for, i would bet 99 percent would say, well, its about mexicans and Central Americans, right. Because the face of daca has become mexicans and Central Americans. Why have asians really been left out of that conversation . Do you think . Do they not . Do they not advocate for daca as a strategy around bringing more access to young people . Ali well, i think i mean, we have to acknowledge there is a credible leadership coming from the Asian Community, just like there is incredible leadership coming from the latino and the african immigrant communities as well. I think, frankly, we are a lot to blame here as whether were advocates or part of the media where we are saying were not telling that next story of the Asian Community, of even the african community, their desire to come to the us, their role here in the u. S. , their aspirations as Daca Recipients. And weve you know, weve seen reports of asian organizations starting outreach programs for the asian communities that they serve and they actually get more latinos coming in. So they actually have to hire Spanish Language staff. So, i mean, i think this will play out over time, but i think its on us as advocates and as influencers to be able to always stretch and tell these stories. Soledad you mentioned the media, and i think its really true. I think the media has helped perpetuate this myth of the monolithic Asian Community. And part of that myth is wealthy. Everybodys working at google and theyre all super, super well educated. And when you dig down, thats actually not, in fact, the case. Always. Ali well, absolutely. Absolutely. S, you know, over the next 10 years, Daca Recipients are going to contribute four hundred and thirty three billion dollars to our economy. Thats a lot of money. And thats across latino, asian, african immigrants who are Daca Recipients. Theyre going to pay twelve point three billion dollars in Social Security and medicarenk e think about microsoft and google, what do i think about i thk about that store on mamilyhe children are Daca Recipients. And you know what . Whatever that store is, they are making that community an amazing place. So i think those are the kinds of stories that are out there and doesnt mean that that family isnt rich, isnt educated, isnt working hard. Theyre reaching their fullest potential and theyre achieving their american dream, just like any other immigrant community here. Soledad where do you see the political power in the Asian Community . Obviously, Orange County, right. Which is one of the oldest and most established asian communities, really, i think is beginning to grow. Show its strength and political power for asian communities, because lots of places, if you dont have a political power backing up a strategy. Its not going work. Ali so i think theres two examples that ive drawn. One is Orange County, right . Youve seen the vietnamese, the Asian PacificIslander Community in Orange County really flex their muscle politically. Soledad give me some examples. Ali so you also have you have an uptick in voter registration. You have a number of folks running for office who come from immigrant families. The second example i point to is sugar land, texas, sugar land, texas. So i wrote a book a couple of years ago called there goes the neighborhood. And i focused on one of the places i focus on the sugar land, who is running for a school council, County School commission. Its the south Asian Community. Who is running for the mayor . Se south Asian Community. So you have the Asian Community really helping sugar land reached new heights, just like the houston area in general. So those are the examples that we take inspiration from. And i think as a country we can say again, its the asian communities, the latino community, its the immigrant community writ large whos making america amazing. Soledad ali noorani, its so nice to have you. Thank you. Ali thank you. When we come back. Maid in America Soledad youve gone from being in a homeless shelter to a published ravedabout author. But her success comes with a warning. Stephanie im really hoping that my story causes people to listen. Plus, the u. S. Navy goes on a multibillion dollar spending spree but these items wont fit on santas sleigh. So that early retirement we planned. Its going ok . Great. Now im spending more time with the kids. Im introducing them to crab. Crab . They love it. So, you mentioned that that money we set aside. Yeah. The kids and i want to build our own crab shack. Ahhh, youre finally building that outdoor kitchen. Yup with room for the whole gang. See how investing with a j. P. Morgan advisor can help you. Visit your local chase branch. Soledad here on matter of fact, we like to introduce you to regular people who are shaping the National Conversation on everything from politics and science to pop culture. People like stephanie land. Shes author of the bestselling memoir, maid hard work, low pay, and a mothers will to survive. It was named one of the best books of 2019 by the New York Times and the washington post. Its the honest and heart wrenchstrty. Now, its headed to the small screen. Thanks to a deal with netflix. I recently sat down with stephanie as she told us her stor so start at the very beginning. What kind of brought you into your circumstances i know you had Domestic Violence you had no money you had a child and you found yourself sort of just now entrenched in poverty and alone with a kid. Stephanie yeah it was really bewildering position to be in because you think that you know your parents will be able to support you or the my daughters father would be more supportive and suddenly i was very much alone and didnt have anyone to turn to for help. And so i was in a homeless shelter. Soledad so the thing that i found so interesting about your book which is a fantastic book was like the mundane details of how poverty just grinds you down. Why did you think that was sopf that in there because to me that was like describing how im making a Peanut Butter and jelly sandwich. It was so ingrained in my daily life. And i thought it was boring but my editor she had lived experience with my situation and she said well wait what happened between the homeless shelter and when you got your first apartment and i said oh i was in transitional housing and she said nope you need to put that in there. I kind of referred to it fondly as a crushing sense of hopelessness. Soledad bring us up to speed now. You start the book when your daughter is five or six. Today shes 11 and obvio youve gone from being in a homeless shelter to a published ravedabout author. What else has changed . Stephanie its these tiny little moments of running out of toothpaste and finding that theres three more tubes underneath the sink. You know theres always toilet paper. I never have to stress over how much milk im putting into my soledad do you think race has opportunities that you would have as a white woman who is poor as opposed to a black wom or a black guy who was poor. Stephanie definitely. I think my story is incredibly privileged. I mean i did not grow up in systemic poverty. I grew up in the suburbs and i am white and because i grew up the way that i did i didnt think that poverty was my ultimate fate. And thats also a very privileged position to be in. But i mean what i what im hoping is that you know people are listening to me because i look like them honestly. Soledad so i do hope that people see that and it challenges what they think they know about poor people. and iy story causes people to listen to the millions of other stories that are from much adverse situations and who had it much harder than me that normally we wouldnt even Pay Attention to because we dont want to hear it. Land. Im so glad that you came in to talk to us about it here. Thank you for having me. Coming up next the u. S. Navy drops billions on a fleet of the most advanced submarines in the world. Is a new arms race picking up steam in the pacific . Plus why its more important than ever to thank a veteran this weekend. Soledad now to a weekly feature we like to call were paying attention even if youre too busy. It looks like there could be a new arms race brewing underwater in the pacific. The u. S. Navy announced this week its going to spend more than 22 billion dollars on the most advanced submarines in the d. The navys most expensive shipbuilding contract ever was awarded to General Dynamics and Huntington Ingalls for nine nuclearpowered, virginiaclass fast attack submarines. The virginiaclass subs are sort of like a swiss army knife, they can do it all. The submarines can destroy enemy vessels, launch missiles to hit landbased targets, and collect intelligence while sitting just off a countrys coastline. The navys a