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>> this is the most ancient form of falconry in the world. it blows my mind that it's even real. it's like something out of "lord of the rings," but you can do it. >> we built a camera harness to learn what it's like to fly like an eagle. ( ticking ) >> these giant stone statues have fascinated and confounded visitors for centuries. dutch explorers named this place almost 300 years ago when they spotted it on easter sunday. >> it has soul, it has life. >> they're alive. >> absolutely. >> in the middle of the pacific, easter island is very difficult for most people to reach, until tonight. 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( drilling ) >> whitaker: the gold in these ultra-deep mines is found in narrow veins, laced through the rock. some are no wider than a pencil. it's cramped at the rock face, and we crouch alongside the miners as they work, hunched over in the dark. the noise from the drills is deafening. massive air conditioners cool the tunnels, but it can still reach 120 degrees down here. >> are you guys ready? >> whitaker: at the end of the shift, we had to rush not to miss the elevator back up. it doesn't wait for anyone. and here's where all that breaking rock pays off: the smelter. the ore is smashed and pulverized in a grinder before being fed into a furnace. monga kasongo, who runs the operation, told us we were the first tv crew to film the weekly ritual they call "the pour." we all had to wear these special pajamas with no pockets so we couldn't steal anything. the heat was intense as the furnace reached almost 2,000 degrees. the gold turned to liquid and poured down into the molds. >> monga kasongo: when i saw it the first time, i was like, "wow." that's something that keeps me going. when you hear people who have never seen gold or touched it, i feel like i'm more privileged. >> whitaker: these bars will be refined again to 99.99% purity before they're sold for coins and jewelry. the mine used to process about 60 tons of gold a year. now it's just a quarter of that. still, the day we watched the pour, there was a pretty good haul. wow, this is quite heavy. >> kasongo: yes, it is. >> whitaker: how much is this? >> kasongo: 11 million rand. >> whitaker: in u.s. dollars, we're talking $7.5 to $8 million u.s. dollars for what you poured today? >> kasongo: yes, definitely. >> whitaker: that sounds like a good day? >> kasongo: it's a good business. ( laughs ) >> whitaker: it's one thing to come here for the gold, but now this harsh environment has attracted others-- scientists hunting for what they call extreme life. >> tullis onstott: we've found water that's a billion years old. >> whitaker: a billion years old? >> onstott: a billion years old. >> whitaker: in these caves? >> onstott: right. >> whitaker: an international team led by princeton geoscientist tullis onstott and belgian biologist gaetan borgonie are pioneers in the search for life buried in the rock, where no one thought it could survive. borgonie says his colleagues thought he was crazy when he took a sabbatical to try to prove there was life deep underground. >> gaetan borgonie: "oh, come on," they said. "you're going to go to south africa for a year, you're going to go look for something that does not exist there?" >> whitaker: they've lost count of the number of trips to the bottom of thnes searching for life hidden in the ancient water, seeping through the rock. >> borgonie: this is a completely different world down there. there are different rules. >> whitaker: how so? >> borgonie: the temperature is different; the pressure is different. i mean, it's a tough world down there for life. >> whitaker: the next day, we went along with them to the deepest level of the mine. for them, it was just another ay at the office.just another for us, it was an eye-opener. this feels like that movie "journey to the center of the earth." with just the light from our headlamps, we waded through a tunnel that had been flooded with cold water to cool it down. then we grabbed a chairlift cut through a channel of rock-- except this one went down. this is like the best disney ride ever! picture five of new york's world trade centers stacked on top of each other. that's how deep in the earth we are. now we've stopped for a second. ( alarms ) i hope it's a second. we have to get off? when the chairlift stopped suddenly, we had to hike down the last 50 yards to the bottom. then, at the end of an abandoned tunnel, our scientists found something amazing. >> onstott: i've been looking for 20 years for a salty water deposit like this. never found it till now. >> whitaker: white patches on the wall turned out to be salt. is that edible? >> borgonie: i don't know. he's tried it. >> whitaker: this is ancient salt? >> onstott: that's the question. has to be-- has to be ancient salt. >> whitaker: very salty. and the source? this dripping salt water. what does that tell you? >> onstott: it tells me this water is extremely old. because in these rock formations, they were formed three billion years ago. there weren't salt deposits back then. >> whitaker: they believe this water could be all that's left of an ancient ocean. and where there's water, there can be life. >> onstott: we could be looking at something which has never seen the life that has evolved on the surface of the planet. >> whitaker: all from this cave two miles down in south africa? >> onstott: all from gold mines in south africa, exactly. >> whitaker: in 2011, they found what no one thought possible: these tiny worms living in a pocket of water 5,000 years old. what you're seeing is magnified. these worms are no bigger than a human hair. it was a species never-before- seen. it survives without sunlight, deep in the hot underworld, so they called it "mephisto," or "the devil." >> borgonie: that's where my worms live. they eat bacteria. >> whitaker: the first worm you found was in something like that? >> borgonie: yeah. >> whitaker: using an endoscope camera, they were the first to film this deep inside the earth's crust. this is the devil worm's home. before this, no one thought animal life could exist this you've made a big discovery. >> borgonie: for me, it is big, because for me personally, i had to fight quite a lot of people to be able to do this. on a personal level, that was the biggest victory for me. in the total grand scheme of things, it's just a worm. >> whitaker: it's just a worm? >> borgonie: it's just a worm. >> whitaker: they were surprised to find other living creatures too. so many, they called them a zoo. a crustacean, about 1/64th of an inch; an arthropod; a flatworm; and single-cell bacteria. it set off a storm of speculation about where else extreme life might exist... perhaps even on mars. nasa helped fund their research. >> borgonie: if there is life here in the deep, then you should definitely dig on mars, because if life was ever there, you will find some life form, i believe very strongly, still on mars. >> whitaker: so the martians we meet in the future could be these single-cell organisms you're, you're talking about. >> borgonie: i think that would be the-- that is-- yes, indeed. i think that would be the most likely. but be prepared to be surprised, i would say. >> whitaker: south africa's gold mines are now so deep, they might as well be on another planet. >> bernard swanepoel: i'm not sure that we really want to send human beings much deeper. >> whitaker: bernard swanepoel started his career underground, and ended it as the c.e.o. of harmony gold, which now owns moab khotsong. >> swanepoel: if you are in a successful mining team, it must be like a successful sports team. i mean, mining is one of those activities where, at the end of every shift, you know whether you won or lost. >> whitaker: gold was the lifeblood of south africa. the way it's dug out has changed little since apartheid, when underpaid black miners often worked in mortal danger. at its worst, more than 800 workers a year died in mining accidents. no coincidence, the struggle that led to apartheid's defeat started underground. gold and gold mining seem to be in the d.n.a. of south africa. >> swanepoel: south african gold mining especially has always been at the center of all political and other activities in our country. i mean, our bad apartheid history is intertwined with gold mining. i mean, a lot of the-- a lot of the legislation to dispossess black people of land was in order to create cheap labor for south african gold mines. >> whitaker: you grew up in a small mining town during the era of apartheid. what are your strongest memories? >> swanepoel: well, ultimately, i'm a privileged person that, because i was white and i was male, those were the two requirements at the time to become a mining engineer. >> whitaker: so are you the new face of south african mining? >> kasongo: i will say yes. we are the new generation in the min wtaker:s r apareid enr the smelter.managing he told us he chose to move here from the congo to work in the mines. has that wound in south africa been healed? >> kasongo: not 100% healed. but there is some healing happening, there is some healing, yes, because you have a different, different people working in the mines, and the mindset has been changing. >> whitaker: now, safety is paramount. you'll find women underground, and blacks are senior managers. once some of the lowest-paid laborers, are now among the highest. but this generation of gold miners know they may be the last. of the 11 gold mines that once flourished around here, only e l operate. the mines are now so deep, it's becoming too expensive to get the gold out. the story of the ultra-deep mines is nearing its final chapter. to dig the riches from such astounding depths took grit and brute force. now, south africa's resolve must be deployed to solving the next challenge: what to do when the gold runs out. 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( laughs ) >> pelley: they hadn't seen her in two years. >> mcgough: it feels like i never left. ( laughter ) just in a few minutes of seeing everybody. such a magical place. >> pelley: now, how did a woman from oklahoma end up out here, in mongolia? >> mcgough: ah, well, i read a book on falconry. and it's like the fire was lit. i just knew i had to do it. and, as i was researching, i went to the library, and i found this old book that had black and white photos of eagle hunters from mongolia. so, you know, this beautiful shaggy horse, and this man with a giant eagle and a fox pelt on his horse. and it just looked like the most incredible thing. and i thought, "i have to see it, i have to do it." >> pelley: at the age of 17, her father, a former air force stealth pilot, brought her to mongolia. lauren returned five years later, with funding from a fulbright scholarship. then she earned a ph.d based on her work with the eagle hunters. >> mcgough: these are the people that can talk to animals. because they have relationships with goats, sheep, horses, camels, eagles. they have intimate knowledge of where snow leopards are and foxes are. there's no agriculture here because the land's not arable. so, they've ingeniously learned to domesticate animals, and then build these unique relationships with wild animals. >> pelley: it's a relationship that she learned from people who endure the life of 19th century ranchers. they are kazakhs, who make up just 4% of mongolians. they have no running water, no e

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