Throwers of change. Were not the same thing repeating itself. Then Senate CandidateDianne Feinstein first appeared on face the nation in 1992. Miss feinstein is gender a plus or minus for you . Theres sop many men back there and we dont see anything happening. Reporter the californian was a pioneer, winning her seat in the year of the woman. The senate went from two female lawmakers to six. Feinstein said it was the first time she felt her gender wasnt a negative for voters. When she was elected to the San Francisco board of supervisors in 1969 there werent many women in public office. Feinstein became the first female mayor of the city following the assassination of two of her colleagues. Both mayor muss coney and supervisor harvey milk have been shot and killed. Reporter she never forget that experience and championed gun laws, including the 1994 assaut weapons ban when she reached the senate. I am quite familiar with firearms. I became mayor as a product of assassination. Im aware of that. I found my assassinated colleague and put a finger through a bullet hole. Reporter though it expired ten years later her passionate campaign continued. Let me talk about rights for a minute. Does a child have a right to be safe in school . Does a law client when he goes nto a law firm believe he has a right to be safe . Does a shopper in a mall have a right to believe shes safe . Innings. Reporter that position put her at odds with conservatives. She became a deal making centrist, increasingly rare breed in washington. At times challenged her own party. This is not what americans do. Reporter as the first woman to head the powerful intelligence committee, she sparred with the cia director and accused the agency of trying to cover up its past abuse of terror suspects. Were supposed to be better than that. We dont have to torture people. Reporter america, she argued, is big enough to admit when it is wrong and should be confident enough to learn from its mistakes. Being a pioneer wasnt easy as she told Bob Schieffer in 2009. We women have had to fight for everyting weve gotten in the public arena. We werent given the right to vote. We had to fight for it. Reporter today, women make up a quarter of the senate. Following a path she helped to forge. Senator graham was one of the republicans, as you saw there in that piece, who worked with senator feinstein closely on the judiciary committee. I loved her. She was great. When i got to the senate, somebody told me, ill protect their name here, if you want to get anything done, see if you can get ted kennedy and or Dianne Feinstein to help you because if they got on your bill or your idea, the people in the Democratic Caucus would listen. If ted was the lion, she was the lioness. She could move votes. She knew how to get to yes on things. She was always kind, always prepared. She was a defense hawk. She was socially liberal. She was my friend. I miss her. If youre looking for a role nolds politics as a young man or woman, look to her life. You know, there is also that image of her embracing you after the very contentious hearing. Yeah. Supreme Court Justice amy coney bairts. She was criticized within her own party for praising how you conducted yourself. How do you think about that now is this. That says more about the current state of affairs than diane. Diane was saying nice things. We had like a fivesecond hug. Because she wanted to Say Something nice to me they thought she had to be off the committee. Diane wasnt the problem. She was the solution. There are people on my side, it goes both ways. Lets do this. Lets reflect on a lovely light. America is better for Dianne Feinstein having served our country. California is better for it. We lost a lot. We just didnt lose a person. We losten an idea. I want my contribution is to try to reinvigor the idea its okay to be tough and kind. Its okay to be liberal or conservative, but even more okay to work for america and thats what she did. We lost a lot with diane. The rest of us will have to up our game. Before i let you go i want to ask you, she was also an outspoken pro pone nent for abortion access. Are you going to reintroduce your bill limiting it to 15 weeks which has become a litmus test. I will. Donald trump has not signed on. He didnt like 15 weeks. My bill has exceptions for rape, incest, life of the mother. 50 european nations limit abortion from 12 to 15 weeks. The baby can suck its thumb and feel pain. I want america to be like the civilized world not klein or north korea. Its a debate worthy of a great country to have this debate and we will have it. Senator graham, thank you for your time. Thank you. Well be back in a momentnt. All thatat planningg hahas paid offff. Lolooks like y you can make t this work. Wewe can make e this work. And the fefeeling of c confide that comomes from ouour advi . 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Again, my condolences and salute out to her. Look, on your question with regard to our allies see, Vladimir Putin sits in russia today and looks across the landscape, and he sees the United States of america, which is unwilling to spend what it needs to on defense. It is now pulling back spend for ukraine. Weve seen successive republican votes where more and more vote against funding for ukraine. He sees coups in africa pushing western militaries out. He has a pro or sympathetic serbia massing troops on the border of kosovo. A vote in slovak ka, a nato ally in europe, that picked a Prime Minister who is prorussian and promised to cut spending for ukraine. From his Vantage Point the west is fracturing. Hes going to wait out clock and hope that donald trump returns to the presidency. I want to ask you about that. In your book you write extensively about your frustration with getting then President Trump to support aid to ukraine, and that was before the fullscale invasion, when Russian Troops were just in the east of the country. He still, to this day, is not coming out in support of aid to ukraine, and as we just talked about Vladimir Putin has said some of the comments hes made, make him happy. What does that mean in terms of what we should expect if there is a second Trump Presidency . Well, i suspect that he will do what he says, and that is he will come to office. He will somehow attempt to negotiate a deal between russia and ukraine and that wont fly. Theres only one person that can end this conflict in ukraine and thats Vladimir Putin. Hes not about to do that any time soon. I suspect trump will quickly move to end funding for ukraine and then move to withdraw funding for nato and pull out of nato which will be disastrous for the United StatesNational Security. For all those reasons that concerns me. We can talk about our allies and partners in asia who will be concerned. Youre not supporting the former president s bid to return to office but the governor of florida also president ial candidate has raised his personal objections to, you know, limitless checks as well. So do you like any of the republican candidates right now . There should not be blank checks for ukraine and everything we provide should be audited and accounted for. As it is. On the bigger question, im disappointed in some in my party not picking up the mantle of Ronald Reagan. I consider myself a reagan republican. Ronald reagan would sup these young fledgling democracies whether ukraine, europe being invaded by its largest dictatorial neighbor or taiwan in asia thats being intimidated and tlelgtsnd by china. Thats what Ronald Reagan stands for. That said i think there are a few republicans in the debates right now who i could support who are better certainly than trump and could beat president biden. I think for republicans we have to it find that person, rally around them and bring the party who . And run a strong candidate. Want to give me a name . Look, i think weve seen good performances from chris christie, nikki haley, desantis, tim scott. There are three or four or five. The Republican Voters need to decide who that is. Its not donald trump but there are a number of good candidates out there. You make clear you see President Trump as a threat to democracy, not just a flawed candidate, a threat to democracy youve said. Upon his retirement last week general mark milley, an ally of yours during your time in office, appeared to refer to him in his Farewell Speech as a wannabe dictator. Is that overstating things . A dictatorship . If you go back the week prior donald trump said milley for his behavior whatever he thought that was, was should be punished, and he talked about execution. Which was unfair. Mark milley served this country for 40 years, dragged his family around 20 plus times. He deserves our respect and admiration and not that type of talk. No less coming from the commander in chief, the former commander in chief. Look, i have a lot of concerns about donald trump. I have said hes a threat to democracy. The last year, the last few months of Donald Trumps presidency will look like the first few months of a next one if that were to occur. There are a number of stalled military promotions in the senate. Talking about problems with democracy right now. Are you disappointed even in Congress Republican leadership hasnt been able to clear that hurdle and get the caucus in line to say that some of the highest ranking nofrsz officers in our country should get the jobs theyve been nominated for . Im concerned on a few levels. Senator tuberville is serious about his concerns over the policy issues and hes had a chance to bring them up for a vote and declined to do that. I think its unfair to hold military nominees over 300 now hostage if you will, over a policy issue for which thats not the responsibility. Thats a civilian responsibility. So my view is that should not happen. Its happened in the past by both parties and ive called on senator schumer to start moving nominations which he has because it looks like both parties are politicizing the military. Thats mienutional concern. If you step back and ask yourself look the Chinese Government doesnt shut down, doesnt do continuing resolutions and dont hold up their admirals and generals when they need them as they prepare for conflict with the United States. We look really dysfunctional and harming our readiness in the process when we look across the international environment. Mark esper, thank you for your analysis today. Well be right back. Were joined now by coat chairs of the Problem Solvers Caucus brine fitzpatrick and new jersey democrat josh gottheimer. Good to have you both with us. We have a lot of problems you need to solve. I want to start what we just learned in the course of this program which is Speaker Mccarthy coming out and seeming to link some movement on the border to his willingness to move a ukraine funding bill and heard Lindsey Graham said how he wants it to go down in the senate. He called it a threelegged stool. Would you get on board with what graham proposed . I would. I think we have a lot of challenges and need to address all of them. Its consistent with the Problem Solver framework we introduced last week and addresses keeping the government open, ukraine, our border and expiring authorities. We dealt with several of them in the continuing resolution that passed thankfully yesterday. But there are remaining items that are unaddressed the border and ukraine being two of them. The border proposal that has passed hr 2 that Speaker Mccarthy talked about would not go anywhere in the democratic straight. Thats not going anywhere, but i think to brines point we have to address both and its a false choice to say we will do one or the other. We can make it the next 45 days to support crane and stand up to putin and china and iran critical to our National Security and allies, but we need to make sure that we deal with and deal with the challenges at the border and Border Security and live up to our values there. What graham laid out was not just funding for ukraine. It was, i mean, almost a years worth of funding for ukraine. Can you get that done in 45 days . I think we cant we know we can get through the next 45 days. Its a matter of days and weeks and not months and years in terms of what weve available to make sure that we ukraine has what they need to stand up to putin. We have to make sure we get some legislation to the floor quickly. I know the speaker is open to that. He signaled hes open to that. I think thats key. We have other challenges and we can do more than one thing at once. I think the ukraine funding should be for a longer period of time for a year. It sends right message to ukraine and russia. And its, perhaps, i think the best solution inside our chamber to get that done. And the Border Security language in our framework was a bipartisan bill. Thom tillis bill in the senate, the bill in the house, represents the intersection of where the two agree. You think you can get the speaker on board . Im going to work hard. You also heard today the call a motion to vacate, oust Speaker Mccarthy from leadership. He says he can survive. Can he . Yes. To me, this whats going to be put on the floor is a choice, are we going to reward bipartisan bills put on the floor or punish them. That is a choice. Substitute out Kevin Mccarthys name for Hakeem Jeffries or anyone else. If the situation were reversed and the squad tried to do the same to Hakeem Jeffries should he be speaker at some point, what i would do on the first and 100th vote i would vote to table it. We need to encourage bipartisanship and two Party Solutions to be brought to the floor. Thats what we need. To do the opposite would be rewarding this hatfield versus mccoy brand of politics destroying our nation. Gaetz says hes going to keep coming and he can. Own one vote needed. That may require a change in the rules package. This cannot be the trajectory. To stop one person. Correct. That was how Speaker Mccarthy got to the leadership. That was that was one of the of the changes made but we were given assurances it would never be used and a matter of principal it remain at one. You cant have it both ways. 90 plus of the American Public does not want us to be voting on a motion to vacate every day for the rest of the term. Is he going to get democrats brian was helping hakeem there. Are democrats going to join gaetz . He needs 218 votes. The way i look at it you have a civil war raging in the Republican Caucus since the beginning with extremists trying to take out common sense and do it time and again. Ill leave that to brian. Thats their caucus. Im from jersey. We dont mess with peoples families. Ill tell you what were open to, as you saw yesterday and the debt ceiling, if theres bipartisan ideas brought to the table were always going to be at the table negotiating in good faith. Its how we got yesterday done. Thats how yesterday happened. You had every democrat plus one cover for the 91 republicans they lost. We came together for the good of the country to help people and families. Thats the stuff we should be negotiating in good faith and continue to do that. Republicans have shown they cant govern on their own . The only way things are getting done is with democrats and bipartisan governing and people want us to put the country over party. Can you say we wont be back in the same place november 17th talking about a possible Government Shutdown . Well, were two out of 435 so not in a position to make that prediction. Like we said last sunday on a show that josh and i appeared together, we will do whatever it takes to keep the government open. We made that pledge. We were prepared to take drastic action yesterday had that not passed the floor . What do you mean . A number of mechanisms we could force a floor vote on our two party solution. There were options and we were prepared to do it. Thats one of many. Thankfully we didnt have to go there, but we will do what it takes to make sure the lights are on in the United States government. I think the point is were going to work around the clock the next 45 days. The cycle of insanity has to stop. We need longterm solutions. We cant keep doing this and wasting our time. We have real challenges. This includes the debt ceiling. We cannot be on the