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day before thanksgiving when she was being challenged for speaker, i think it was 2016, because she knew i knew a member who was sort of wavering about supporting her, and again, called me personally, and said would you mind calling so and so and make your case for why i should be reelected speaker, which obviously i was happy to do. she was also much more of a policy person than people give her credit for. i wouldn't say she was a wonk, obviously, but she was deep into it. and i also remember getting a call from her, again, herself, no staff, just on my cell phone one night, because she was working on some policy issue that she thought had relevance to what i had done on the auto rescue, and wanted to know how we had handled a certain issue because it might be applicable to whatever she was working on at the moment. it was really quite remarkable. she's also going to have an incredibly capable successor, hakeem jeffries, which we should also talk about now or at some point because he's going to be an important figure in the democratic caucus. >> we'll be talking about definitely who's going to be